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# Pepe Escobar on the West versus the Global South
- URL: https://www.jermwarfare.com/pepe-escobar-on-the-west-versus-the-global-south/
- Published: 2025-11-03T15:07:40.000Z
- Updated: 2025-11-03T15:07:40.000Z
- Description: While travelling through China, I sat down with a veteran of good, old-fashioned journalism.
- Author: Jerm
- Tags: Geopolitics, China, Pepe Escobar

During September 2025, I spent a few weeks travelling across China, from Shanghai in the east to Kashgar in the west, and while in Kashgar, I sat down in a restaurant with Pepe Escobar.

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Sitting down with Pepe in Kashgar, China.

Pepe is a Brazilian journalist and independent geopolitical analyst focused on Eurasia (Central Asia) and the Global South (countries generally considered to be economically underdeveloped or developing).

He serves as a columnist at *The Cradle* and editor-at-large at *Asia Times*. 

Since the mid-1980s, he has lived and worked as a foreign correspondent in locations including London, Paris, Milan, Los Angeles, Singapore, and currently Bangkok. He has authored numerous books and is a frequent commentator on various news channels.

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Jerm and Pepe somewhere in Xinjiang, China